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I just put a tiny, mini Bushnell TCN (or something like that, I don't remember) on my M1 Carbine on an Ultimak scout mount. I get 1.5" groups at 100yds with its 3 minute dot and Corbon 100X Barnes factory loads out of a Fulton Armory model .30 carbine. I like it alot, bought it from Opticsplant for $165. Highly recommed it. I use this rifle as a home defense/urban rifle, but would hunt deer/hogs with it in a heartbeat. My last Aimpoint, with a detachable mount for a rifle a I used to have cost me around $650, 5 years ago!
 
I used a Simmons Red Dot Scope 30mm Multi Reticle Sight 851234C on my .357 magnum and .44 magnum 1894. It held up well. Now it resides soley on the .357 magnum 1894. As with anything there are pluses and minuses.

- The Simmons has 4 recticles ... a crosshair, a diamond, and two dots. The dots mask a lot of target out at 100 yards, or more, but the diamond opens up the center.

- The red dot image is good in dark, or dim light, but really sucks in bright daylight.

- The under $60 price makes for a cheap tool, cheaper than the millett.



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At one time I had considered the multi reticle approach but read, here I think, that on a BSA the scope did not hold zero as you changed the reticles from dot to cross hair to circle dot. I don't know if it's true but it influenced my decision to stick with the fixed dot.
 
Ha Dingus said:
At one time I had considered the multi reticle approach but read, here I think, that on a BSA the scope did not hold zero as you changed the reticles from dot to cross hair to circle dot. I don't know if it's true but it influenced my decision to stick with the fixed dot.
I have had a couple multi reticle sights and found that one did and one did not maintain the same zero for each reticle. To me its kind of a cheesy feature, I only use single reticle sights now. If the sight I'm interested in doesn't have a reticle that I like, I won't buy it. I prefer single dots in 1,2, or 3 MOA sizes as long as they are bright enough during bright daylight. 4 MOA won't be to big for me out to 100 meters for hunting. I've never had a quality sight that wasn't plenty bright for any time of day. Even the Millet SP1 is bright.

If I remember correctly, the sight that I had that didn't maintain zero for the different reticles was a "Cabela's" marked sight. I don't recall who actually made it for them, it cost about $70. I would leave it one the small dot setting and it worked fine.
 
As I stated before " I have a Tasco Red Dot mounted on my 1894C .357. It is the one designed for shotguns or high caliber pistol, so it will handle the recoil." It has 10 or 11 levels of brightness and is a 1X and only cost me $32.00 at Walmart. It has a 3MOA dot and is a cheap way to go if you want to evalutate the redot application on your rifle. It allows me to use it for plinking (and hunting if I so desired), but can be swapped out for a small fixed 1-4X scope which I prefer for hunting.

CJ
 
I know this is an old thread, but looking to see if there are any new experiences going this route. I am considering one for my 1894 in .44mag. Right now there is a Leupold vx-r 1.25-4 on it but it really ruins the rifle's handling for me. Not to mention aesthetically with the 30mm tube it just looks too large. Thanks
 
I like (and have on mine) the Millet 1 X 24 with different sizes of red dot---pretty fast to acquire and doesn't look too big on the 1894. It works good so far--but if I was to remain a purist in the way that looks good and still works---I think the Skinner winged with the Mini SHOT reflex would be outstanding. Still keeps the "lines" of the 1894 intact, IMHOO.

JX
 
I have an Ultradot Matchdot 11 on my 1894c. It has different reticules and eleven brightness settings. Its non magnified. I usually just use one reticule and brightness, the rest are superfluous. Havnt had any problems with it holding zero. Good value when I bought it but not now with the Dollar and Euro rates
 
for under 100 bucks my list starts and stops with the bushnell trs-25 ($70 Bushnell TRS-25 HiRise AR Optic, AR731306 just throw away the riser). about the size of a golf ball and has held up well for me on several guns. Primary arms has a similar dot for more money.

+1 for the TRS. I have two of them, and they are have been very good sights. There are better sights out there, and many worse, but for the money they are just about the best bang for the buck IMO. The Vortex SPARC is is worth a look too...but you'll prolly not find one near the $70 range.
 
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After shooting my bow tonight I was wondering what makes a 1x red dot sight any better than a fiber optic front and ghost ring rear? I use a green one pin fiber optic sight on my Hoyt. I can see with it until its too dark to shoot legally anyway.
 
Great thing about living in USA, you can decide. Use whatever works for you! I like a 1X with a red dot on my weapon that has various MOA dot options with brightness settings.. Whatever works for you--depends on your eyes. Explore other ideas in this forum.



JX
 
After shooting my bow tonight I was wondering what makes a 1x red dot sight any better than a fiber optic front and ghost ring rear?
The red dot allows a much faster acquisition of the target. No matter where your eye or cheek are positioned the red dot is on target. In addition to that, a 3 moa red dot will blot out 3 moa of the target at 100 yards where as a fiber optic front site will cover much more of the target, giving red dot more precision bullet placement.
 
My .357 1894Cl is due in any day now. It will wear a Mueller 1-4x24 - the scope has a red dot, if you turn it on, or a black dot if you don't turn it on. I have found the to be great scopes. I have one on a 10-22 and one waiting for my .357 to arrive. The optics are clean and clear and the 4 minute dot covers: 100 yards - baseball, 50 yards - fat golf ball, 25 yards - quarter. This is good enough for my use - in the standing (offhand) position I'm not sure I can hold it rifle on a quarter at 25 yards.

Michael
 
The red dot allows a much faster acquisition of the target. No matter where your eye or cheek are positioned the red dot is on target. In addition to that, a 3 moa red dot will blot out 3 moa of the target at 100 yards where as a fiber optic front site will cover much more of the target, giving red dot more precision bullet placement.
That was precisely what I needed to know. I like the reflex sights like the burris ff3. I have one on a 15-22. The only downside is the lens have a blue tint. I am considering the venom or viper red dot made by vortex.
 
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