Marlin Firearms Forum banner

Got the new 45-70 laminated big loop 18.5 incher--very disappointed

4.7K views 18 replies 14 participants last post by  LanceS4803  
#1 ·
Picked up the new laminate stock, blue barrel, long tube, big loop 45-70. A really good looking rig.

That the good news.

The rifle came from the Factory with out a TANGE SCREW. Stock just slipped off. How about that for quality control.
marlin is sending one. Nice of them.

Hey, I love marlins, I have ten Marlin Lever Guns.. But shipping a gun without a tang Screw???

The other issue, went to sight it in, And the trigger was so tuff and hard to pull I had to check many times that I did not have the cross bolt safety on. Literally I had to squezze the trigger with all my strength. Must have been a 12 LB trigger. Horrible. Never new when this thing would go off.

Its kind of heavy too. That laminate must weigh a ton. Oh, and it kicks like a mule. 6 rounds and I called it quits. Especially with that trigger.

Great LOOKIMG GUN>>>> Buy I would never buy it had i tried one out.

Will stay in the gun rack...Will go back to my 444 outfitter........feels nicer and lighter...................
 
#2 ·
No excuse for not having the tang screw.....but they are sending you one to make it right. C'mon......you can either update the trigger or there are things you can do to make it better. If that's all that is wrong I think I could live with that...Marlins have never been known to come from the factory with great triggers. As far as the stock....plenty of info on the net that you could've looked up before buying.
 
#4 ·
using Hornady Leverevolution 325 gr I believe. Again Just not pleased with the overall quality. Must have gotten a bad one. Even a few of the screw heads on the reciever just do not look clean and crisp, not that they are buggered, They just have some nicks with blue missing. Also the barrel has a tiny nick on it. Even thought it states Conn. on the barrel I wonder if this was made at the remington factory.
 
#5 ·
Go to the Reference Library on the home page and find swany's home remedy's for lightening up that trigger.....or you can waste $90 on an aftermarket happy go lucky trigger.
 
#8 ·
Can you get your $$$ back? If its that poorly put together, I'd get my coin back and look for a good one on a shelf somewhere.
 
#9 ·
zippo123 said:
Picked up the new laminate stock, blue barrel, long tube, big loop 45-70. A really good looking rig.

That the good news.

The rifle came from the Factory with out a TANGE SCREW. Stock just slipped off. How about that for quality control.
marlin is sending one. Nice of them.

Hey, I love marlins, I have ten Marlin Lever Guns.. But shipping a gun without a tang Screw???

The other issue, went to sight it in, And the trigger was so tuff and hard to pull I had to check many times that I did not have the cross bolt safety on. Literally I had to squezze the trigger with all my strength. Must have been a 12 LB trigger. Horrible. Never new when this thing would go off.

Its kind of heavy too. That laminate must weigh a ton. Oh, and it kicks like a mule. 6 rounds and I called it quits. Especially with that trigger.

Great LOOKIMG GUN>>>> Buy I would never buy it had i tried one out.

Will stay in the gun rack...Will go back to my 444 outfitter........feels nicer and lighter...................
No excuse for sending out a weapon with bits missing!!! :mad: I’m not a particularly big fella (6’ 1” tall and 190lbs) My Marlin .45-70 kicks like a mule too, coz that’s how I load it and that’s how I like it! ;D It makes me feel alive and reminds me what a great cartridge it is! ;D ;D ;D
 
#12 ·
sefjo said:
I have a happy trigger and it is a very good trigger, i recommend it.


I used swany's trigger tips on several of my Marlins including my 1895GS, your $90 Happy go lucky trigger is no better than my factory triggers......I recommend swany's tips and spending money on something useful 8)
 
#13 ·
Missing tang screw is just unacceptable. 12 lb trigger (did you measure it) is high, but like others said there are things that can be done to remedy that. Mine are all older so do not have that problem. I have 3 different versions of the 1895, guide gun, 1895 cowboy and an ordinary plain jane 1895 and they all kick hard. I shot my 375 H&H CZ 550 Safari American off the bench today 50 rounds and right now about 5 hours after the fact, my shoulder feels like it could easily handle another 50. That speaks wonders for configuration, fit, and weight. My 1895 Cowboy is bad, along with a couple of Ruger #1's in 375 H&H and 458 Win Mag. The CZ being the mildest shooting big bore that I have
 
#14 ·
Leezie said:
No excuse for sending out a weapon with bits missing!!! :mad: I’m not a particularly big fella (6’ 1” tall and 190lbs) My Marlin .45-70 kicks like a mule too, coz that’s how I load it and that’s how I like it! ;D It makes me feel alive and reminds me what a great cartridge it is! ;D ;D ;D
Exactly.............

At the Florida MarlinOwners Shoot this year somebody had a brand new 336W that had a real "hard to pull" trigger. I'm sure they've already worked Swany's magic by now but it was crazy stiff.

Now, can't blame a guy for wanting to go back to his 444P, they are one sweet rifle.

1895gunner
 
#15 ·
I used SWANY's trigger fix on all 9 of my Marlins IN ONE EVENING with an average of 2.5 pound trigger gauge MEASURED on every one - - - and safety checked in every way to ensure no bump fires. Ever use a 4 pound rubber tire mallet on your Marlin? I did from every angle I could hit them. I had one that came down to just under 2 pounds and it did bump fire once. I took it apart and rebuffed the sear and put it back together at 2.5 pounds and no failures - - - -

- - - - and I will put my 30 minute dismantle-repair-reassemble trigger job up against any Happy Trigger - - and cost me nothing but my own time. I even came up with a MASS PRODUCE method to do them all - - - and they even made it a STICKY. . . . .

http://www.marlinowners.com/forums/index.php/topic,96569.0.html

Oh, by the way.. some of the sweetest firing triggers I have even compared to my target match rifles.

By the way I do not hunt - just target shoot so pay attention to SWANY's WARNING on the trigger job. . . .

GB45
 
#17 ·
six_gunz said:
Go to the Reference Library on the home page and find swany's home remedy's for lightening up that trigger.....or you can waste $90 on an aftermarket happy go lucky trigger.

I like that name!............But NOT the actual trigger.........

Tom
 
#18 ·
i have a standard Guide Gun, and with the Hornady ammo, yes, they do have a pretty hefty recoil. when i first got mine, i HAD to hot rod it, not knowing about the inertia of a big bore slug. everything i had owned previously was 30 caliber or smaller. i ended up doing 2 things, to tame it down enough to actually be able to shoot it. the first thing i did was had a muzzle break put on this BEAST! i opted for a Gentry "Quiet Muzzle Break", because it is advertised as not having the horrendous noise of a standard brake. the advertisement is true. in the woods, without hearing protection, i can tell no difference with that muzzle brake. i am certain if i was indoors, or under a canopy, it would be a different story. anyway, the other thing i did to tame this down, was to buy and install a Limbsaver recoil pad. yes, i know, the gun comes with a recoil pad. but, it is not a nice soft energy absorbing pad like Limbsaver makes. it is a 2 Phillips screw installation, and they fit correctly right out of the box. so anyone who knows what end of a screwdriver is the business end, can install it. between the two of these, the gun is now actually shootable. even with my "African Game" loads. while i will not tell you that the Hornady loads are easy shooting now, they are definitely within my comfort zone. i would recommend the Limbsaver recoil pad first. it is a cheap and easy fix. the muzzle break is much more expensive, and you will have to have a gunsmith install it, as the barrel needs to come off and be cut for threads. as far as the trigger pull goes, that is way to heavy! either there is something wrong with the gun (a major burr in the trigger parts), or it was not properly fitted at the factory. my gunsmith only charges $35.00 for a trigger job on most guns. that might be the best money you will ever spend on it. the work he does for that obviously is not a lot. and they are by no means a competition trigger job. but they do come back DRASTICALLY improved, with a crisp clean break, and a reduced pull. i had him do a H&R Handi rifle that had roughly .080" - .100" of creep, and an honest measured 9 1/2 pound pull. it came back with a 4.5 pound pull, and almost no creep. for $35.00, i can live with that!